My experiences with the previous ebaumsworld staff

[DarcSystems]

Originally Posted by star4ucker

my favorite part of this saga (which hasn't been mentioned yet) is when m_wright started telling people he was employed at ebaumsworld and physically in the rochester office. It was awesome when he told admin's alter-ego account that everyone in the office was out to lunch at the moment and got into a pissing match with him, i believe the admin in question was dt.

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Originally Posted by m_wright

at this time, vic and the other technicians at ebaumsworld had been communicating with me, pretending to be avid users of the site who knew of numerous security holes, trying to befriend me, earn my trust, and even trying to test me. i did what i could to draw them out as much as possible by lying about my position and job and even about my abilities, which later led the real vic to believe i was impersonating an employee and further fuel his dislike of me, causing him to further his masquerade.

[m_wright]

Originally Posted by star4ucker

My favorite part of this saga (which hasn't been mentioned yet) is when m_wright started telling people he was employed at eBaumsworld and physically IN the Rochester office. It was awesome when he told admin's alter-ego account that everyone in the office was out to lunch at the moment and got into a pissing match with him, I believe the admin in question was dt.

st4rfucker: As you may have missed (understandably considering the length of the posts above), I already addressed both the fact that they were pretending to be a hacker on the site and that, in order to help them find out who it was I did in fact impersonate an employee in order to piss them off and get them to continuously attack me (which actually worked to a degree but ultimately did not lead to any contact information being retrieved for the obvious reason that the individuals in question were involved in a conspiracy against me).

Originally Posted by m_wright

Also: I hate to tell you this, but those 2,000,000 points you gave me along
with the 56,000 I earned in the past 48 hours have been taken away again by
a malicious veteran user who didn't like me claiming I was helping
ebuamsworld. It doesn't bother me too much though, as I know you guys
remember how many points I had and can give them back if they get taken away by this malicious user.

Take notice to my warnings to the staff that possibly dangerous users not only existed, but were seemingly obsessed with harassing me, and how I was determined to assist them by leading this devious users on in order to extract information from them. I'm pretty sure I was doing my job and nothing more, contrary to the frothing load that Vic posted in my blog that most of the veterans here would die by.

Originally Posted by m_wright

At this time, I had already introduced myself to the general community in the blogs and postings as someone working at ebaumsworld.com both to encourage feedback about existing security concerns and to flush out hackers of the website. Almost immediately revealing myself, there was quite an onslaught of attacks against my account, including superuser level modifications of my profile. Knowing the website was full of holes, I assumed it was just some other crafty users, and sought to flush them out in private messages (and succeeded to do so on numerous occasions). Little did I know, these 'hackers' were actually the admins and other technicians spending their hourly pay toying with me and creating a sense of urgency on the website, involving even the website's non-paid moderators such as Jen.

As a normal user account without system access at the time, there would have been no way of knowing if the system was more faulty than I had imagined or if the admins were just screwing with me. I'm pretty sure I did a good job handling it.

Originally Posted by m_wright

These veteran users, who are they? You said we've no way of banning
them from the site because of those PROXY Servers you mentioned, so is
there anything else you can do? We have contacts with the FBI. Can you
find out more information on these users who stole your points? Can you
get their name, address, or phone number? With that, we might be able
to do something. I only ask because you seem like someone of that
caliber to procure those things. It would be a HUGE help to us.

Please continue reporting these finds, it is much appreciated.

--
Vic

Note: I was asked by Vic to continue doing anything it took to uncover the identities and methods of the would be hackers, which is exactly what I did.

Originally Posted by m_wright

You needn't involve any authorities as this person has not broken the law-
yet. According to cybercrime laws, a person needs to access to certain
places that are OBVIOUSLY off limits. Your website is making it so easy to
do things without ever accessing those areas. FBI will not be able to help
you in this particular situation. The only harm this person has been doing
is hijacking my account in order to tamper with it to "prove" something to
me, and scare me, as he does not believe I am actually working with
ebuamsworld. Instead he believes that I am there using the very exploits I
am here to fix. He doesn't believe the 2,000,000 points were gifted, and
retaliated against me for his lack of understanding. He also claims to
communicate regularly with eric, and mentioned that eric doesn't like me.
For this, I think he's talking out of his ass- but at the same time, you
never know who you're talking to, so I have a solution that is non-technical
but more social...

If I can make him take me serious, I wholeheartedly believe he would assist
me in patching this hole up. At the moment though, he;s looking at my
account as if I was just a kid trying to steal points from ebaumsworld. He
isn't listening to me, and he won't know who anyone there in your group is
if you tried to contact him...

I do have a possible solution to this though- if Eric himself can tell him
that I am working with you, or possibly even put it on the website, he will
not be able to deny it and then he will be forced to show his true colors.

Take note that not only did I tell Vic what I was doing, including telling the general public that I was working with ebaumsworld, but I also asked for them to step in and let the users know themselves, to which I never received either confirmation for or opposition against doing.

This combined with my continued honesty towards the staff should lead any sensible thinking person to the conclusion that they were more interested in toying with me for their own personal entertainment and not at all for any of the false arguments they gave in the last conversations, thus supporting my original argument that they were unprofessional and deserving of what they got.

Basically, as everyone's been saying, I got screwed and was pissed. I'm not so much pissed at them anymore so much as pissed at people who after looking at painfully obvious evidence of their unprofessionalism and immaturity still prefer to take refuge in their ignorance and continue to post nonsensical baseless accusations and gossip about either me or what one single employee had said about me.

It is truly mind boggling.

[DreaD08]

Mathew,

I'm throwing this out there so everyone can end this shit and go back to being regulars again...and the questions that are in the back of all there minds but they wont say it............Why in the first place did you start all this shit back then, What was the true motivation ? "You say it wasn't malicious but fact is it was". Who the fuck does all that work when there's absolutley no pay involved? You must really...really reaaaaaaaaaalllllllllllllly love the site. I also remeber with the new staff you wrote a threating blog saying you'd give all the users the gliches due to the fact that they didn't get back to you in two days. To me, you sounded like a 4chan whiney wannabee hacker on a power trip to just begging for a fight...so How the fuck were the staff supposed to feel about that?
"Notice the hostility there, the staff thought worse than that probally"
If I was in there shoe's you sure as hell better believe I'd retaliate.


But on the different side of the fence you did offer help, but in a demanding manner.
Some people in this world cant take constructive critism.
But whats past is past, and obviously you grew mature. I'm looking at the both sides here and being devils advicate.

I hope My point came across clear and was not to be insulting but as an example

But seriously if you really wanted to Slap Eric Bauman in the Face......... Get nudies of his GF on here

[m_wright]

Originally Posted by DreaD08

I'm throwing this out there so everyone can end this shit and go back to being regulars again...

I was going to say something along the lines of "I appreciate your wanting any arguments to end", but as you seem to be a tad narcissistic in your claim that users will no longer 'need' to post here once you've posted, I can't help but hesitate on commending you.

Originally Posted by DreaD08

..and the questions that are in the back of all there minds but they wont say it............

I'm pretty sure if there was anything on anyone's mind, they would say it. They've said everything else. So I will take your inquiry as it actually is-- your personal inquiry.

Originally Posted by DreaD08

Why in the first place did you start all this shit back then, What was the true motivation ? "You say it wasn't malicious but fact is it was".

After reading the e-mails again carefully, I can't quite fathom how anyone would say I was starting shit. In fact, I was saving the God damn day.

If you're referring to my original curiosity that brought me to test the site's limitations and vulnerabilities-- obviously you wouldn't fit in much with the MIT crowd-- or the 2600 crowd-- or any technologically conscious crowd for that matter. Some people are just natural born scientists with theories itching to be proven or misproven. And I probably have ADHD.

Originally Posted by DreaD08

Who the fuck does all that work when there's absolutley no pay involved?

Really...Have you SEEN any of my websites? I once wrote a 3D RPG for 1 month and then gave up on it completely without batting an eye. I do for the adventure and opportunity for experience. That is the only reward I have ever needed. If that's not enough explanation for you, throw in the ADHD one again for good measure.

Originally Posted by DreaD08

I also remeber with the new staff you wrote a threating blog saying you'd give all the users the gliches due to the fact that they didn't get back to you in two days.

That was only after repeated failed attempts to receive feedback from the new admins after numerous attacks. After reading this thread, you can't see where my lack of faith came from? It all worked out though and I work with them now.

Originally Posted by DreaD08

To me, you sounded like a 4chan whiney wannabee hacker on a power trip to just begging for a fight...so How the fuck were the staff supposed to feel about that?

I'd like to agree with you there, except I just don't see that tone in my original emails. I've gone over it, over and over again in my head and although I can understand the lack of trust, no real whining occurred and I'm pretty sure even if it did, the amount of help I was giving them (which they continued to leach off of me for days) was not deserving of their reaction, a reaction that-- as is the entire point of this thread- was both unprofessional and overboard.

Originally Posted by DreaD08

"Notice the hostility there, the staff thought worse than that probally"
If I was in there shoe's you sure as hell better believe I'd retaliate.

This is one thing I can totally agree with. In looking back, I can't be sure why I was so hostile in the beginning, and I'm pretty sure I cured that after my final conversation with Jason *********. I'm pretty sure I agreed with them emphatically over the phone too when they used that as a cheap excuse for how they had treated me too. That being said, their elaberate reaction was overboard and uncalled for.

Originally Posted by DreaD08

But on the different side of the fence you did offer help, but in a demanding manner.
Some people in this world cant take constructive critism.

I don't do that as a practice anymore. I learned a lot from this ordeal. The problem is I DO take constructive criticism (see the part about growing up on IRC), and basically it was my way of finding the shape of the world as a young kid too. Elaborate hoaxes that waste people time and money, followed by slander and outright lies don't add up to criticism for me though, and thus it is still hard to let go because there are still silly users on this very thread who are not even thinking, they're just remembering what Vic posted on my blog and without a backbone at all making a judgment on me.

Sad. So sad.

Originally Posted by DreaD08

But whats past is past, and obviously you grew mature. I'm looking at the both sides here and being devils advicate.

I hope My point came across clear and was not to be insulting but as an example

But seriously if you really wanted to Slap Eric Bauman in the Face......... Get nudies of his GF on here

I totally take your point and I respectfully and humble assert that I was completely off from the beginning by contacting ebaumsworld staff in a pushy arrogant manner.

Now if only someone else would bother to agree with the fact (up to liability in a civil suit) for the waste of time, money, abuse of my programming talents, slander and continued harassment by Vic, then this thread would not even have been necessary.

Until then, back to fixing the vandalism on my wikipedia page due to the popularity of this thread.

[robroy]

^I hate you.

[Caption]

They probably didn't want to read your 25 pages of bullshit OP.

[Strados]

Wait, are you the one who posted previews on eBn of new website material for opinions? The pages with the sloppy template WYSIWYG code? I hope not.

[m_wright]

I remember pulling a prank (which although has been taken down, the comments page for it is still up) where someone could hover over a link and automatically have their entire page redesigned to some gay porn theme or something to that nature. If that's what you're talking about then yeah.

If you're referring to something that was supposed to be of actual use to anyone, no I don't recall doing anything of that nature.

Edit: I noticed just now you were referring to ebaumnation- in that case, the only thing I've EVER done there was make a script that whenever someone looked at my posted picture it would automatically make their account post a comment that says things like "I love hitler" or something like that.

[DarcSystems]

Originally Posted by m_wright

Edit: I noticed just now you were referring to ebaumnation- in that case, the only thing I've EVER done there was make a script that whenever someone looked at my posted picture it would automatically make their account post a comment that says things like "I love hitler" or something like that.

Did it work?

[m_wright]

Of course. 'm_wright' was immediately IP banned after that and I never bothered to go back since.